Why is feast for crows so boring

There wasn't enough Jaime or Littlefinger. They were pretty much the highlights of that book, and watching Cersei self destruct from incompetence. The horrible Greyjoy chapters were what made to book so bad to me. User Info: RebelElite Second best book in the series, I'm sorry your opinions are so horrible. User Info: Etrurianmage. AFFC has grown on me since I read it. Even at the time is had its moments. Jaime's POV pretty much carries the story, but his character development alone makes it worthwhile.

There are major pacing issues arguably necessary after the page piece of ass-kicking that was ASoS, but it maintains the characteristics of a solid ASoIaF book. And it's still leaps and bounds over ADWD, which was just an altogether failure. User Info: burned Cause you silly If you are not a crow, sounds like that fan will find it difficult to smile. User Info: bubbas It's not bad.

It's the second best book in the series. In the books, the Kingsmoot is framed through Asha Yara in the show and serves as an opportunity to highlight her relationship with her uncles and their interpersonal relationships from afar.

At times, it really feels like A Feast for Crows is just trying to see what sticks to the wall, with Darkstar standing out as a shining example. Even in his own book, his role is painfully unclear. Dorne was butched was than Doran when it came to Game of thrones. In A Song of Ice and Fire , the Dornish plot is one of the most complex and has yet to reach its turning point. Cersei Lannister is nothing short of a lunatic, but Game of Thrones failed to depict her mania accurately.

This is the case with Breaking Bad, The Shield and Oz for example contrast with Sopranos, The Wire or Mad Men which rarely feel the need to speed up the pace or make exciting things happen for the sake of it. ASoIaF never set my radar off in that regard. He spent something like 2 years writing that book before scrapping it and starting over. Of course that just created a bunch of new problems, because he had to not only create a bunch of new plot threads to cover things that would have ostensibly happened offscreen in the intervening time, he now also had to reshuffle the timelines in order to keep everything on track for his endgame.

Then that book became so huge and unwieldy that he was forced to split in half. That really hurts the Iron Islands and Dorne plot lines in particular, because both of those really are just cut in half and get some actual payoff in the next book. The Jaime and Brienne chapters are where the book really shines for me, not just because of the interesting thematic stuff he gets into which you acknowledge above, but because those are the places where I did find both the badass moments and brief glimmers of beauty that you were missing.

For me, personally, Jaime upholding his promise to a dead woman who despised him and ending the siege of Riverrun bloodlessly is his single most badass moment in the series, event more so than jumping into the bear pit. And the moment on The Quiet Isle, where the monk talks to Brienne about redemption and the rarity of true 2nd chances as the bandaged gravedigger works in the background who is clearly Sandor, though Martin has enough restraint to never blantantly acknowledge it , that is for me at least, a perfect example of Martin writing a beautiful moment.

Of course I also liked both Storm and Clash considerably more than GoT, so we may have to agree to disagree! Thank God someone took the time to explain what would be his side of thing not being facetious.

He was never going to build on the heights that was Storm of Swords because it was his midpoint and after that it was back to setting up the dominoes. Hey Hulk. But on this, I have to diverge rather sharply from you. I think reducing the books to a couple of shocking moments is doing them a HUGE disservice. But while rambling aimlessly is rarely a good thing in any medium, literature often has other goals than providing a high-powered plot. It comes down to the godfather of this particular subgenre: JRR Tolkien.

With Tolkien, plunging into his appendices and whatnot feels like homework. And AFFC is part of this just as much as the others are, which redeems it somewhat in my eyes. I think this is something Martin has actually calibrated very carefully. Yes, we believe anyone CAN die, which is something you rarely get in an adventure story, and which Martin has carefully built up. But even that proves my point, because she had to get to that point in the narrative.

In that sense, I think Martin is nicely playing with our expectations. Love your stuff, just wanted to take issue with an article that I think is unfair to Martin. Sure, in real life, the medieval world was pretty lousy it was made worse due to a Western historical perspective informed by the Renaissance and Enlightenment that obviously had biases , especially by modern standards. His audience has responded to this by labeling his work realistic, in what I believe to be a good example of what HULK might call latching onto tangible details apologies, HULK, if I have totally misconstrued what you mean when you talk about those.

I think I liked this book much more than most but I do agree that there were problems with it and you illustrated those perfectly. Take Blackwater…for epic scale of battle the book has it all over the show. For character beats? User Info: TheSchref. Yea, but why bring it up if nobody has said it in this particular topic? TheSchref posted Does there have to be a reason? He was making an observation. People are allowed to do that.

WizardofHoth posted Feast for Crows isnt bad. How you been? Vyyk posted Just seems out of place. Usually people bring up counterpoints to arguments that are actually going on, not just randomly. Absolutely, but some segue would be nice at the very least. He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning.