Why tobi isn obito

Yes he was all about peace but he created the ninja world which bred all sort of hate and lots of war. He may be thinking since he started all this war and hate that he should be the one to end it.

He may have seen that since there truly is no way to be peace in the world that it's better to enslave them all under the ten tails and force peace. Since he started the ninja world he may see it as he's the only one who can put an end to it.

Thatguy posted over a year ago. They call him rikUdou denning just because of his power but Tobi just uses kamui like kakashi on himself anish posted over a year ago. So I have one idea that meets all criteria of being tobi! You want to know who im talking bout than read my article! On this link: link. Madara has his body back so why would he need obito One thing there is no ghosts anish posted over a year ago.

Kirara4ever said: He is neither in the manga he says and I quote I think " I am neither you say then just call me by my old name, Tobi, it truly does not matter nor do I care who I am" That is essentially what he said. He changes masks His other eye is a rinnegan like pain. It sure seems that the rinnegan isnt as rare cuz like 15 or so people have it currently as of chap Tobi and Madara are the same person.

Obito died at age 13 and in his last moments he was paralyzed so he wouldn't be able to do a reanimation jutsu. He was also buried and has a grave stone marking. Proof on episode of Naruto Shippuden. Not simple Only zetsu and Hidan can do that crap anish posted over a year ago. Only full blood Uchihas can enter, if its not Madara Heres my Theory: Tobi appears at Sasukes side when he is in trouble, Zetsu isnt always around so Tobi isnt always informed yet he shows up to save Sasuke all the time.

What I have been thinking is it is Sasuke As "Tobi" says, once you reach levels of Sharingan more abilities open up, he has space time ninjutsu and has travelled in time before, exactly why it could be sasuke from a different timeline Everything works out with this theory.

Makaih said: Tobi is Obito. BUT the thing is.. And there was three reason that I find out so far, for now That technique won't effect on me.

So it's pretty obvious that he was Obito, consider the fact that the entire Konoha village thought that Obito was dead, and that make him have no place among the Konoha village or anyone any more. So for that, it's make him no longer have identity. That was my answer so far. But I don't know if there was different opinion in this matter. So then later!! Hruiz said: Tobi cannot be Madara because spoiler alert when sasuke kills orochimaru kabuto inserts his dna into him. So now that he has all his jutsus he starts the next great ninja war and he uses orochimarus jutsu that can revive the dead.

During the war one of the past tschukage or something like that spelling Who they think they captured, used the jutsu, then appeared in front of everyone with a revived Madara while is somewhere with kabuto So I think tobi is obito :. Im personally leaning more towards him being either madara or madaras brother. Qonon said: Tobi is neither. Obito- Obito's death took place 13 years before the main story. Tobi attacking Konoha took place 12 years before the main story.

Madara: He is not Madara With the information the manga has it is unclear who Tobi is. Think about it, Obito lost his left eye to Kakashi, they only ever show Tobi's right eye.

Yes, later in the series they show him fighting Konan, and yes, he has two, but it's more likely than anything that he stole it from one of the other people with the sharingan, also, he apperently has the ability to clone eyes or some such, because all the old kage's and people that he had Kabuto reanimate have a rinnegan and sharingan eye, and obviously there arent that many rinnegan users lying around to steal it from, and there arent many sharingan users left.

Another thing you can point out are the name resemblences, but really even i dont think that means anything important. Also, tobi and obito have similar personalities, that is until tobi starts saying he's madara and goes nuts,but other than that they are pretty similar. Also, kakashi, who has one of obitos eyes, has similar powers to tobis eye, they can both do weird tricks with space and time, and when tobi shows kakashi his sharingan eye, kakashi flips out.

Why would he flip out unless he showed kakashi that his mangekyo sharingan looks exactly like his own? And the reason that masashi kishimoto is saying that its madara, is cuz it is probably going to be the final plot twist, unless naruto and sasuke team up or something which is possible but unlikely.

And if it was madara, why wouldnt they show his mangekyo sharingan? Its not like he hasnt decided what its going to look like yet, masashi kishimoto already has that design and in a book, 42 or 43 i think, but tobi is never seen with it!!! The timeline also makes sense, im not saying it makes more sense than it being madara does, but here, madara would be extremely old, but he is MADARA UCHIHA, so its not impossible for it to be him fighting lord fourth, but tobi got crushed before minato even became hokage, which is proven because danzo's squad was trained by the second hokage, and they called him lord hokage still, and kakashi, rin, and obito all call him sensei or master, and minato was hokage for a few years before he fought nine tails, dont you think?

So that gives Obito at least 2 or 3 years to train and get stronger, which shouldnt be that big a stretch, because thats all naruto and sasuke had and look how much stronger they got, and obito could have even had more time than that.

And when Kabuto used the edo-tensei to show tobi that he had almost all the past akatsuki members bodies for reanimation, he summoned another body, now whos was that that it mad tobi so mad about??? Most likely, the real madara, since tobi's trying to be a poser madara. And alot of people are saying that obito's dead, that is not entirely true. We know he got crushed by a big rock on the right side of his body-guess who has weird wrinkles and cuts on the right side of their body too, TOBI- but even though he got crushed by a rock, it that really gunna stop him, or anyone for that matte.

There is alot more that i didnt get to type, here it is narutofan posted over a year ago. Now im not sure about this whole its obito and tobi and madara thing, its possible, maybe madara survived, and happened to be on the last of his three year cycle and found obito dying and took his body because madara was weakened and tobi would be easy to pick off, but if you have to switch bodies every 3 years, dont you think he would have gone through like at least 10 other bodies since then?

Thats my theory, but then again, maybe masashi kishimoto is still deciding what he wants to have happen? Maybe all of it is coincidence, and its just some random guy who is really named tobi??? It would have made sense that it was Obito Uchiha, but if you look closely Tobie's right eye is the only one visable right? And if you go back to the rock killing Obito then you'll see that his right eye was crushed. So it could have been a possibility and but if his right eye was crushed wouldn't that make Tobi's mask have a hole on the left side?

His true identity is unknown. He refers to himself as "Nobody". If he knew Negato Madara was probably alive when obito died. This might contain some major spoilers so if you don't want to know to read any farther He told Sasuke that he is Madara and it true since Madara Uchiha is immortal. If you remember when Madara looked at Sasuke he was set in fire with amaterasu. Itachi knew that Madara would go to Sasuke to tell him the real reason Itachi killed the Uchiha clan and Itachi wanted Sasuke to hate him forever.

But Madara lived after amaterasu had hit him. Madara Uchiha was also the one to make the nine tailed fox go to destroy konoha and that was around the time Naruto was born and now Madara shows himself after so many years which prooves that he must be immortal Well that's what i've got!

I think madara is some one who is a uchiha knew abt the deccision and went out the village came back nxt day seen it all disposed n sht -. TheTruth said: yes he is based on the manga today only obito would talk to kakashi in the manners of an old friend and here is the prove and this prove is the only prove needed to determine who madara or tobi is none other then your truly obito Hinata said: Tobi is neither Madara,which was already dead and summoned by Kabuto,nor Obito,for the reason why do he wants to destroy eveyone he loves most,peace.

Maybe Tobi is more sinister,so don't worry we have maybe more than 5 chapters away to revealing who Tobi really is cause Might Guy cracked a part of his mask. Katcurbstomp said: I don't think it's either. Most likely it's Madara's brother actually. I mean it can't be Madara since he was reincarnated in the war by Kabuto, and it couldn't be Obito because he died at the age of 13 and the entire right side of his body was crushed by the rock that killed him.

Paralyzing him in his final moments and that means even if he was alive which he most likely isn't his right eye would also be gone or damaged and he'd have mobility problems. Tobi supported evil things where as the sage traveled all over spreading the message of peace and trying to end wars, where as tobi tries to create them to gain ultimate power of the sharingan.

So by default the most likely identity of tobi is Madara's little brother. I've been reading the manga n I just found out that Tobi is obito uchiha. Let me explain. When fighting the five kages he explain the whole battle against the first hokage. He lost the battle but didn't die. Read the manga n y'all see what I'm talking about. Maybe he's body was found half dead n someone help him out n heal him.

My theory, madara's brother raised him n showed him the history of the uchiha clan. He calls it Kamui. Tobi has a similar power. It has been told in the manga. It's in the latest chapter. Two reasons, one: Madara is alive, well dead but living due to the edo tensai.

And two: kakashi and the "masked" man has the same space traveling jutsu, and in one picture from the latest manga they both have the same sharingan eye shape.

Kakashi got his eye from obito therefore obito is Tobi and vice versa. Antwannkiddo said: tobi is obito. Anyway, tobi's hair is just like obito, his right eye contains the sharingan and kakashi's left contains the same sharingan. I can't wait for kakashi's reactions!!! Obito is still a small kid how could he fight the fourth hokage? La0boi said: Ok so im going over this so many times i still cant percent say who it is since i havnt finished the series in the manga or the anime.

Tobi being madara, tobi being obito or is both. Madara is just pretending to be "Tobi" and the other akatsuki members didn't know until Kisame and Zetsu were the last ones alive! He confesed to Kisame that he is madara and he uses Zetsu in the 4th great ninja war!

Thatguy said: I would like to add a theory of my own. I don't have much evidence supporting this theory but it just seems to fit. Maybe the sage of six paths hasn't revealed himself yet and is letting Obito handle things until it's necessary to show himself.

The sage of six paths always wanted peace and started the ninja world. The ninja world caused a lot of hate and war and things got even worse. So the sage of six paths seeing that he had created all this hate and world realizes the there is no way to obtain true peace.

He decides since I created the ninja world I should be the one to end it. I've bred so much hate and war and it's time to finally end it all. Therefore he starts the moon project to enslave the people into a genjutsu and force peace upon them. Because since there is no such thing as true peace then the next best thing is artificial peace.

Some people may not think it's possible because he was just too good a person but think of this: He created the ninja world in the hope it would bring peace, but instead it brought more hate and more wars.

It did the complete opposite, which to him meant there really was no hope of true peace. Once again just a theory with little evidence but it's not Madara Uchiha seeing as Kabuto has his body and uses it in his reanimation jutsu and it can't be Obito alone because when the Kyuubi attacked Konoha Kakashi was still just a kid meaning that if Obito survived the boulders then he was still a kid.

The person who summoned the nine tailed fox on the other hand was a man and a very powerful one. So he attacked the hidden leaf village and got away and is now manipulating Obito while he lays back. Uchiha-Obito said: I am tobi and my proofs are 1, i'm not sure 'bout this but in the naruto wiki when i type in Uchiha Obito it brings tobi's face so.

MOST People say madara because he was grinning when he said you'll come back used a really strong Genjutsu so curse his eyes to make him see that kakashi killed her but he really didn't and others say madara let him go because he knows what will happen and it's not an illusion so Obito went back and resumed his service.

Hope this helped. It's obito uchiha. It is in the manga and it shows how he survived. If u don't believe me Read the naruto manga title obito and madara. It shows that madara was reanimated and madara helped obito live by using a zetsu for the other half body.

And obito's technique uses the kamui. XxcoolheatxX said: I think that obito is madara and just changed his name to madara then to tobi for commiting crimes and felonies not to get caght like he will.

ShadowSlayers said: The author of naruto magna has confirmed that tobi is just pretending to be madara but he is really is obito and was following his grandfather's goal. I am not saying who is his grandfather because it will spoil the surprise, i know this because i read latest magna published in japan. I also think obito being tobi is in the manga. ParisofSuna said: Obito Uchiha is indeed Tobi. Tobi is telling everyone that he is Madara, that is not true because Madara died years back. Tobi is still determined to follow Madara's plans though.

At least, Tobi once was Obito. Tobi is thought to be Madara because of his power and is abilities. Although there could have been many theories on this, it was explicitly made evident by Tobi himself that he was Obito.

Obito is not a bad guy. He is good person who just has a different view of the world. Obito is the main bad guy in Naruto. He is responsible for a massive war which took many lives. Kakashi never knew that there was another dimension on the other side so to speak. MS abilities can be different in left and right eye. Fortunately, Katsuyu was able re-attached her body.

All were near death situation, but she never really died. Naruto was born to Minato Namikaze and Kushina Uzumaki. We know that the Uzumaki are one of the most well-known clans in the series. Although Tsunade attempted to save him, she failed due to his lethal injuries. As Dan died from fatal blood loss, which Tsunade had failed to cease, it caused her to develop hemophobia.

When Itachi traps Kabuto in the Izanami, the battle is finished. Kabuto cannot escape the jutsu until he chooses the path of reformation. Itachi also manages to get Kabuto to release the reanimation jutsu. One of the most humanizing aspects of Jiraiya, though, is his pure, unending love for Tsunade Senju.

She was both his teammate and friend since an early age, and thus his relationship with her is one of complete respect and sincerity. Tsunade may not love Jiraiya the way he loves her, but their bond in undeniable. Orochimaru Kage level : stalemated the 3rd Hokage although he was old as heck and killed the 4th Kazekage.

So, in the end, he was able to provide Gaara with peace, knowing his mother loved him. Despite Gaara being only six years old, Yashamaru did as ordered but was defeated by him. This was mostly because Temari had married Shikamaru from Konoha. He developed a method of transferring his soul to a new body in order to stay alive. His original body might be long gone, but Orochimaru is still alive and well. And as Mitsuki was a lab creation, he has no need for a spouse.

He seeks immortality not a partner. That is why Orochimaru wanted revenge from Konoha.